What Is Going On In The Lab

Interview with Davide Faconti (By Sander Olson from NextBigFuture!)


Davide Faconti was interviewed by Sander Olson from NextBigFuture!

Here you have the entire interview....

Sander: The PAL project is focused on humanoid robotics. What is the current status of this project?

Davide: The PAL project began about six years ago with 4 workers. Today there are about 25 researchers, and we are focused on rapidly improving these humanoid robots, in particular the REEM robot. We are headquartered in Spain but are owned by investors in the United Arab Emirates.

Sander: What are the main differences between the REEM-H and REEM-B robots?

Davide: The REEM-B robot is a prototype of a humanoid robot, and won't be commercially sold. The REEM-H2 robot is designed for the REEM-B at the lab                                          REEM-B at the labcommercial market. It is wheeled and interaction occurs via a touch-screen on the chest.

Sander: Wouldn't voice commands be simpler?

Davide: The technology of voice commands has yet to be perfected. Voice commands will eventually be ubiquitous on robots but currently the technology is not sufficiently reliable, accurate, or robust to use.

Sander: Can REEM-H2 recharge itself?

Davide: Not yet. But the battery can power the robot for 8 to 10 hours. But we've designed the H2's to have batteries that can quickly and easily be replaced, so we don't see this as a problem.

Sander: What tasks can the H2 currently accomplish?

Davide: It can lift objects up to 8 kilograms, so it can transport small packages. It can move up and down ramps, and can navigate indoors using laser scanners. It can be used for video-conferencing, web access, and it can recognize faces and voices.

Sander: What tasks can REEM-B accomplish?

Davide: REEM-B was introduced 2 years ago and is targeted primarily at research labs. It is capable of face recognition, it can lift objects up to 14 kilograms, and can walk. It cannot yet climb stairs reliably, or operate outdoors.

Sander: How does REEM-B compare to Asimo?

Davide: The Asimo is a beautiful piece of engineering. But Honda has been developing Asimo for almost a quarter century, so they have a lengthy head start. REEM-B can lift heavier objects than Asimo, but unlike Asimo it can't run or dance.

Sander: Is there a REEM-C under development?

Davide: Yes, the target is to release REEM-C sometime in 2011. It will be more robust, it will have a greater range of motion, will be able to climb stairs, and will operate up to three times as fast as REEM-B. We also want to reduce the manufacturing costs. REEM-C will have 46 motors, with 16 motors just on the hands, and should be able to operate for 2-3 hours on a battery charge.

Sander: Will REEM-C be targeted to consumers?

Davide: No, it will be sold primarily to research labs. Humanoid robots are currently too expensive, difficult to operate, and clumsy to be useful to consumers.

Sander: Is software currently the main bottleneck for robotics?

Davide: I think it is. The software is not up the tasks we need it to do, which include reliably responding to voice commands, navigating in the real world, and interacting with objects. The good news is that there are many groups worldwide in the process of improving software programs that can make it possible to perform these tasks. Hardware will not be our major bottleneck once we get to mass production and costs are reduced.

Tags: Davide Faconti, PAL Robotics, REEM-B, REEM-C, REEM-H2

Change your mindset!


 

They kept repeating: it is not about research, this is about product creation!

One of the things that shocked me when I started to work for PAL Robotics some years ago was the required change in mentality. A change was necessary from a research based mind to a company based one. I almost remember myself thinking: you are in the army now!.

Yes! It worked once! Let's write a paper!Yes! It worked once! Let's write a paper!Let's put it clear: a robot product must work correctly all the time. It is not enough to make it work for a promotional advertising, for a short demo, or to make a video for a conference paper on a very specific situation and condition. It must work under all the circumstances it is supposed to be when in its operating environment. Under all light conditions, under all noise conditions, under all crowds size. And let's face it, this is a tough job. Especially because we are talking about real hardware, no computer simulations.

 

Because of that, the mentality inherited from the time spent at University doing research is not valid any more. At least in its purest form...

 

Some time ago, I heard a well reputed SLAM researcher say that SLAM was a solved problem. So, he was proposing, why don't we move on to studying another thing?.

Well, I wouldn't go that far. One can say at most that  in theory the problem is solved. It is like those problems on physics about using spherical cows.

I would say from my experience that robust SLAM is far from being solved. At least when using real robots with no adapted environment. Spherical cows do not exist in real life.

Experiments with real robot REEM-BExperimenting with real robot REEM-BAnd that is what we are talking about here: real robots with real hardware, with real interferences between sensors, real battery problems, real CPU constraints, and more important than anything, real unpredictable environments. And under those conditions, current SLAM techniques do not work. What for a research mind seems a solved problem, for a product-generation mind seems almost useless.

 

So here we are. We need to solve a practical problem, which has a theoretical solution which doesn't work at practice. And here is where, paradoxically, our research mind comes to the rescue. A research mind is required to find a new solution to the problem, but having as a target the generation of a real life solution, rather than a paper publication one.

This means that one can apply the research methodology and add the necessary twist to adapt an existing research solution, modify it, or completely create a new one for that problem. Using this approach you can, for instance, construct a complete SLAM system which works on a humanoid robot.

 

So after all, the complete change of mind was not so necessary but instead, a change of focus.

 

The Zen master said, you must learn the path, follow the path and then forget the path. And that is exactly what happened to our mind when we moved from research to company work. However, in the process nothing remained the same. The path remains in our essence, hence, it can come to the rescue when needed, applying it to the place that is most required.

Just remember to enjoy the path.

Tags: robots, robust

Interns at the lab-part 2.1


Hi! I’m Francesco, I’m the manager of the software department in our lab!

I would like to congratulate three students of our lab with the completion of their internships! Alex, Vincent and Mario have just finished their work-experiences at PAL Robotics. Here a brief update on them!

Vision TeamVision TeamAlex has returned from Barcelona to Toulouse where he finished his course with an excellent score of 15/20! PAL Robotics is grateful for his work and we hope to hear from him again very soon. Visual place recognition is a topic that still needs lots of research, but thanks to Alex now we can integrate the best progress in this field in our robots.

Vincent was always last to leave the lab, sometimes we had to beg him to go! ;) But thanks to his tremendous work he graduated with the outstanding score of 18,5/20! Without a doubt, improving the visual odometry will never be the same without him. He wanted to share a few words of thanks on the blog: “I’m very grateful to the company of PAL Robotics for giving me the opportunity to work on their premises and being able to complete my internship in such a great way. The experience I gained will surely become an asset in my future, thanks to them.

 

Mario has just finished his mini project at PAL and went back home to Italy (nice country!).While improving the graphical Scilab, Mario realized for the first time what the "demo effect" means. ;-) We thank him for his contribution hoping that the experience here will be useful for him. We wish him all the best in his further studies and researches.

Tags: GUI Scilab, interns, internship, lab, PAL Robotics, scholarship, Scilab, visual odometry, visual place recognition

Why do robots not sell like iPods?


The design of our robot REEM: a well studied topic

Hi, I am Jan, and I am the Business Developer here in PAL Robotics. A very challenging job, in a company loaded with very intelligent and ambitious engineers, and in a world where we are at the very early stage of introducing robotics in society.   I just want to share a couple of words with you on one of the main issues of our robots: its design.

My task here is to sell these cute robots we make. But…how do you sell a robot? Many references from the market I did not get – there are for the moment not too much robots around, which, in a certain way, is good for us!  So we did a careful study to check what´s been done, and what failed and why and so on…and actually quite soon you find out that all these smart engineers worldwide make wonderful pieces of technology, but quite often they lack a nice design.

Why do so many people buy iPods and iPhones (see www.apple.com)? Because it is such a sleaky, slim and sexy tool! Yes, definitely in the case of Apple´s bestseller, the design is not the only, but a very important sales argument. And what counts for Apple, counts for a lot of brands and products.

So, why do robots not sell like iPods? ;) Well, there are of course hundreds of reasons (lack of offer, price, security, applications,…) , but one fact is surely people do not feel comfortable yet with robots, a.o. because the physical outlooks of the robots are not very attractive, and because they do not invite people to interact with the robot.

We spend a lot of time and effort in looking for a very aesthetical outlook for REEM, our latest prototype. Just to give you an idea; we organized public demonstrations (although with another model) to check out the reactions of the public (you can see some videos of these on our website, we paid attention to the movements of the robot and how that influences the interaction with people and we gave it a soft voice which is nice to listen to.

The result you will be able to see on both our blog and website – I hope you like it!

Please note that the design of REEM has been developed in-house, contrary to the design of  REEM-C, the new biped robot, for which we have a contest running on our blog.

Tags: Apple, humanoid, PAL, PAL Robotics, Podcast, REEM, REEM-C, robot, service robot

Interns at the lab-part 2


And here the other three interns!

Alexandre Izaute comes from Toulouse in France, where he’s doing a M2 IUP Intelligent Systems at the University Paul Sabatier. He’s working on a project about Visual Place Recognition. ‘Working at PAL Robotics is a real chance to work with humanoid robots and to enjoy the Barcelona way of life at the same time.’

Vincent Deliencourt is a native of Toulouse, a city in the South of France known by the name of The pink city, where he’s about to finish his university years. He worked for PAL Robotics for five months now and he is part of the project of Visual Odometry. ‘I really enjoyed my stay at PAL Robotics, it’s a pleasure to discover a new company life-style. I believe this company represents the right state of mind: it sees itself as one team looking to achieve their goals together.’

Mario Emanuele Lagadari was born in Rombiolo (VV) in Italy. He’s currently studying at the University of Calabria. At PAL Robotics he’s working on the development of a graphical interface for the purpose of controlling a variety of engines using Scilab. Mario enjoys his internship at the lab and says that ‘Working at PAL Robotics is a fantastic experience!’

From left to right: Mario, Alexandre and Vincent

Mario, Alexandre and Vincent

Tags: interns, internship

Interns at the lab - part 1


At the beginning of this year we offered students from several universities the opportunity to do their internship at our lab, and as a result we now have seven interns at our premises making a great contribution to our research and development activities! Time to introduce to you our Class of 2010!

Pablo Garcia is from Albacete, a small city close to Madrid. He decided to come to Barcelona to do the Masters Automation and Robotics at the UPC (Universidad Politecnica de Calatuña). In the morning he works at our lab and in the afternoon he works on his final master’s project: "Automatic Calibration of the Odometry and Laser Sensor Parameters in Mobile Robots". ‘At PAL Robotics there is an exceptional atmosphere. Everybody works really hard but people are always in a good mood! I think this is one of the most important things about working in a group!'

Victor López is from Barcelona, he studied at UPC in the Barcelona School of Informatics (FIB). He’s working on a Supervisor Agent for a Humanoid Robot framework and has been working at PAL Robotics since 5 months. During his time at the company he has learned a lot about robotics, software design and specially C++ programming. ‘This internship has been a great opportunity because I believe I've been very lucky to work with and learn from such brilliant people that work here.’

Jordan Palacios is from Argentina and has been living in Spain for six and a half years now. He recently started working at the lab and still doesn't have a clear project in mind. Though he would like to start something very soon! ‘So far PAL seems great, the environment is relaxed and cheerful, combined with the perfect amount of hard work and dedication.’

Michael Delgado is a Barcelona native and studies at FIB (Facultat d'Informàtica de Barcelona). At the moment he’s finishing the last subjects of this year.  His work at PAL Robotics is focused on programming interfaces. Michael enjoys working in a multilingual team. ‘Working at PAL Robotics is awesome! I’m learning a lot about programming and at the same time I’m improving my language skills.’

From left to right: Pablo, Victor, Jordan and MichaelFrom left to right: Pablo, Victor, Jordan and Michael

Tags: intern, internship

An Insiders look at the lab


Jorien&REEM                   Jorien&REEMHi I’m Jorien! I work at PAL Robotics since april 2009 and I work in the marketing department of the company. Just like Davide, I would like to give you an insider’s look at life in our lab!

 Seeing our lab now it’s hard to imagine where we have come from.. Before moving to our current lab, the company had two previous offices, both located in the city centre of Barcelona. Both spaces were quite small and they were more like apartment buildings than any sort of robotic lab. The second office even had a room with a fireplace, as you can see in the first official video from REEM-B! :)

At the beginning of the company there were only 4 engineers, but the team grew fast and became a group of 12 in 2008! PAL Robotics was about to expand even further and found a great new lab space in Poble Nou, in the middle of the new technology district 22@, also in Barcelona.

So, in the winter of 2008 we moved! Our current lab is way more sophisticated than the first two! :) We have a lot of space, divided in different departments - from software, electronics, mechanics to business and marketing.  The lab is very well decorated with a great sense of style and we have many common spaces to hang out and chill, like our private Starbucks area! :) Flip through the photos and get an impression of our daily work environment!

Software departmentSoftware departmentWhat's behind the magic curtain?!What's behind the magic curtain?!ReceptionReceptionKitchenKitchenBrainstorm session in the kitchenBrainstorm session in the kitchenMeeting at sofa areaMeeting at sofa area

Tags: lab

Is it Time for a Celebration… or May be we should open a Kindergarten?


Today our colleague José told us that in a few months he will become a father. You should also know that our secretary, Alicia, is at the end of her 8th months of pregnancy (she is already at home and we are awaiting news from here pretty soon. Sergi’s wife is pregnant, Joan will have his second child after the summer and I will become a father in November as well!

If you spend some time in PAL Robotics, you will find that we look like the subjects of an experiment about fertility and reproduction. Every 2-3 months we have a party for this reason: some of us go for the first child, while others are already gunning for the second.

Apparently, there is an undercover gambling going on about who is going to be next (I have been a candidate for more than one year, but there always was someone else getting there first…).

Tags: lab

Mounting REEM-H2


Finally the external cover arrived!
Ok, I guess you have missed part of the story and you need something like “…previously, on Pal Robotics…”
 One year ago, we have finished assembling REEM-H1, an intermediate prototype of humanoid/wheeled robot that is expected to be commercially available very soon. You have to understand what an “intermediate prototype” means: we anticipated it having bugs and issues. And boy, this is what we  got... a lot of them!
We have been hard at work this past year, creating REEM-H2.  This is going to be the permanent version we have been looking for: it will be cheaper to manufacture, more reliable and aesthetically more attractive. (It is not a coincidence that it looks more “feminine”).
As I said at the beginning, the external cover, which was needed to start the assembling process, arrived yesterday and we have begun immediately putting all the pieces together. We will keep you updated!!

   

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